Re: you have running code ... I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Mon, 05 November 2018 11:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: you have running code ... I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6only-flag-03.txt
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Brian E Carpenter wrote on 05/11/2018 07:38:
> And yes, a host MAY ignore it (that's the complement to the SHOULD
> in the draft). We've never said anything else.

yes, but you have stated "On an IPv6-Only link, IPv4 might be used for 
malicious purposes and pass unnoticed by IPv6-Only monitoring mechanisms".

If you want ipv6only-flag to be advisory, then you need to remove this 
bullet-point from the document because the presence or absence of an RA 
with ipv6only-flag set will not have any effect on malicious use of ipv4 
on an otherwise "ipv6-only" network.

You cannot use security to justify something unless the proposal 
provides a mechanism for enforcement; if you have no means of 
enforcement, it's fluff, not security.

Nick