Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document

["Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alex,

I created and logged in using a new personal account (not from the Cisco corporate network).  I also needed to add a physical address, but after that I was able to download the pdf version of the standard to my phone at no charge.

So, I believe that this document (IEEE 802.11-2016) is currently freely available.

However, I'm not sure whether this particular version will still be freely available if a new version of the 802.11 standard is published.  I might be wrong, but I think that just that latest version that is at least 6 months old that is available at no charge, after that you need to pay (or get it via a personal/corporate IEEE membership) ... certainly that is what the website seems to indicate if I try and access an older revision of the IEEE 802.11 standard.

HTH,
Rob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu
> Sent: 08 April 2019 16:31
> To: Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>; Carsten Bormann
> <[e-mail]>
> Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]; draft-
> [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 -
> free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document
> 
> a knowledgeable person tells in private we could share the document in a
> peer-to-peer manner.  I thank.
> 
> but there is still no free access to the IEEE 802.11-2016 document, so I keep
> "Description freely available" and I do not put "document freely available".
> 
> I will check back tomorrow.
> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 08/04/2019 à 16:35, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
> > Carsten,
> >
> > Le 08/04/2019 à 16:17, Carsten Bormann a écrit :
> >> On Apr 8, 2019, at 15:02, Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
> >> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For all I know, IEEE documents are generally available for free 6
> >>> months after the publication.
> >>
> >> (This is true specifically for IEEE 802 documents through the get802
> >> program, and a few other places they have seen the light.  Generally,
> >> IEEE’s business model is still largely based on selling documents.)
> >
> > I can agree with the principle.
> >
> > In this particular case, is it too much that I ask you to please
> > download this 802.11-2016 document
> > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995
> >
> > If you already have an account via an organisation, please remove it
> > from the Options of your browser (so it does not pre-fill the form
> > with some password) and try to follow the IEEE procedure to maybe make
> > a new one.
> >
> > If you access IEEE via an organisation's IP address (so your
> > organisation's name is seen at the top of the page) then try to access
> > it from home, or from smartphone.
> >
> > If you think the IEEE GET Program gives some additional access ("With
> > support from the IEEE-SA, industry sponsors, and government, a number
> > of IEEE standards are available for download at no cost.  This
> > program, entitled IEEE GET ProgramTM, grants public access to view
> > and/or download these current individual standards.) please go to its
> > URL and see that they list 802.11 but then it points to the same URL
> > as at the beginning of this email, so cant download.
> >
> > If it is too much to ask, sorry.
> >
> > (I already asked a co-author to do this - no answer; and another
> > knowledgeable person just now doubts in private the availability
> > statements).
> >
> > Alex
> >