RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ?
Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Tue, 10 October 2006 20:50 UTC
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How reliable and useful in what sense? Is it reliable that orq denotes Orcish? Modulo that the published table is a *draft* code table, yes. Is it reliable that orq denotes an individual, constructed language? Yes. Is it useful to know that orq is an individual, constructed language and that that language is Orcish? Yes. Is it useful to have an entry for orq in the first place? That depends on the user, just as it does for all the other 7000+ entries. Again, what is the point of these questions? (And explain to me how this is not a random attack on 639-3, since that is certainly how it appears to me.) Items in 639-3 will never be deleted, nor will they be reassigned. It has a fairly strict stability policy. If this WG feels that is inadequate for RFC 4646bis, then we can revise 2.2.1 to say whatever we think is needed. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ellermann [mailto:nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:13 PM To: ltru@lists.ietf.org Subject: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable wrote: > What point are you getting at? (I really haven't a clue.) How reliable and useful is the info, and should the registry contain a source indication for alpha-3 language subtags if there are major differences between 639-2 and 639-3. Maybe it's possible to delete "orq" from 639-3 later, but it's not possible to remove it from the LSR. The guarantee in RFC 4646 2.2.1 covers only 639-2 and 639-1, not 639-3. If "orq" could be _reassigned_ we've dropped the ball. I think the statement in 2.2.1 needs to be extended to cover ISO 639-3 like it covers 639-2 today. For that I'd propose that we request an official statement to be added to 4646bis (replacing the old 3066 statement). Frank _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:" fie… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… McDonald, Ira
- RE: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Kent Karlsson
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… McDonald, Ira
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: include n… Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable