RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:" field
"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> Mon, 09 October 2006 22:01 UTC
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From: "McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:" field
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Hi, How about attacking this proposal based on facts, rather than unrelated topics or grumpiness (not in good taste, Marion)? draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis-00.txt gives advice based on the type of the ISO 639-3 language code. What possible reason is there to say "that's the problem of the user to research", when it's fundamental to the rationale behind every code in ISO 639-3? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Davis [mailto:mark.davis@icu-project.org] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:08 AM To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Cc: ltru@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:" field -1 I think this is outside of the scope of the registry. Where will this stop? Population of languages? Geographic area spoken? Population density? ..... The purpose of the registry is to distinguish one language from another. No more, no less. Mark On 10/9/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 09:42:00AM -0400, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote a message of 72 lines which said: > A proposal: +1 > The 4646bis registry should capture the language type information > from ISO 639-3. Each language, including macrolanguages, is labeled > in -3 as either living, extinct, ancient, historic, or constructed. I think the more information, the better (*), IF AND ONLY IF: ** this new information does not require a new source when building the registry, (because such a new source would complicate the building process and would add one more dependency, would add one more standard to track, etc), ** this new tag does not bother the existing parsers. To me, this proposal comply with these two rules, so I agree with. (*) : I let the UI people decide if this is useful for the specific issue of trimming the language list ; but, even if they do not use it, others may be. _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:" fie… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… McDonald, Ira
- RE: [Ltru] Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Kent Karlsson
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… McDonald, Ira
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Type:"… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal: include new "Language-Ty… Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: include n… Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? (was: Proposal: inclu… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Is 639-3 bogus ? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Is 639-3 bogus ? Peter Constable