Re: [rtcweb] Summary of Application Developers' opinions of the current WebRTC API and SDP as a control surface

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Mon, 29 July 2013 09:37 UTC

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2013/7/29 Timothy B. Terriberry <tterriberry@mozilla.com>;:
> Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote:
>>
>> for WebRTC" (this is true). I also remember that somebody proposed
>> that the browser should include a "call history" panel, which clearly
>> shows a limited and wrong WWW vision.
>
>
> I recall EKR proposing an audit log for camera access. But the reasons for
> this were entirely related to security (an app with persistent permissions
> won't be as ready to abuse them if it knows it will leave a trail in logs
> not under its control).
>
> I thought it was a really good idea. I still do.

What I meant was somebody requesting a "Call history panel" in the
browser (similar to the "Favorites panel" or the "Navigation History
panel"). ;)


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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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