Re: [rtcweb] Summary of Application Developers' opinions of the current WebRTC API and SDP as a control surface

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 08 July 2013 16:18 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:18:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Summary of Application Developers' opinions of the current WebRTC API and SDP as a control surface
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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jim Barnett <Jim.Barnett@genesyslab.com>wrote:
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>>  As I recall the consensus, developers are supposed to be able to modify
>> the SDP, but we needed to specify what parts of the SDP could be modified.
>>  In other words, there might be some limits to what could be modified, but
>> we haven’t yet determined/agreed on what they are.****
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> This is exactly what I thought.
>
> Yes, this matches my understanding as well. However, I believe there was
also
general agreement that most things one would want to do should be
doable without modifying SDP.

-Ekr