Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services

[Victor Reijs <[e-mail]>]

And thanks John, Sue was the person of Merit who was in our group to make the CLNS/TUBA network in Europe and USA. By the way it was sponsored by the EC, Juha and I were the projectleaders...

Victor Reijs
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dino Farinacci <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, 17 April 2020 22:46
> To: Victor Reijs <[e-mail]>
> Cc: John Day <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]; Toerless
> Eckert <[e-mail]>; S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing
> 5G new services
> 
> Victor, thanks for the stroll down memory lane!
> 
> Dino
> 
> > On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Victor Reijs <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > Together with Juha Hinanen for instance and many other NRENs in Europe and
> together the people in USA (I think a few people of MERIT plaid a large role in
> developing IS-IS and IDRP) and together with  Cisco we build and tested this large
> CLNS network on a multi-protocol network (partly KPN in Europe).
> > We had printed a great T-shirt with the Tuba symbol on it, I still find it a pity I
> threw it away! It would have been a real collectors item.
> >
> > We used the first IS-IS implementations (which is the only thing that is left of
> this project) and we were just in the middle of developing IDRP (the BGP in the
> CLNS environment), and then came the decision to go with IPv6😉.
> >
> > I must have some EPROMs for cisco router with the early code somewhere.
> Would be nice to plan a reunion.
> >
> > All the best and stay healthy,
> >
> >
> > Victor Reijs
> > Research engineer: future internet
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John Day <[e-mail]>
> >> Sent: Friday, 17 April 2020 20:03
> >> To: Dino Farinacci <[e-mail]>
> >> Cc: [e-mail]; Victor Reijs
> >> <[e-mail]>; Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>; S Moonesamy
> >> <[e-mail]>
> >> Subject: Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking
> >> addressing 5G new services
> >>
> >> thanks for the correction. Yes, the TUBA adaption of CLNP was done in the
> IETF.
> >> However, CLNP was an ISO effort.
> >>
> >>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:13, Dino Farinacci <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> TUBA/CLNS was an ISO effort. It is true that it does have a ITU
> >>>> number but
> >> nearly all OSI standards had both an ISO number and an ITU number.
> >>>
> >>> This is not true.
> >>>
> >>> We did all the TUBA work in the IETF. And we had multiple
> >>> implementations
> >> running interoperability tests at the Amsterdam IETF in 1993. Ross
> >> Callon, Peter Ford and Richard Colella, among others were part of the effort.
> >>>
> >>> I remember telneting from a cisco router using an NSAP address to
> >>> telnet server
> >> implementations from Peter and Richard.
> >>>
> >>> Dino
> >>>
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