Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Sat, 11 April 2020 00:22 UTC

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On 4/9/2020 2:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Actually, I disagree. IPv6 is a very conservative design that had
> exactly no effect on fundamentals. That was intentional. Remember
> TUBA (TCP and UDP over Bigger Addresses)? That's what we did,
> with the tiny detail of using homebrew IPv6 instead of ISO8473.
> What we learned is that even a minor step like bigger addresses is
> expensive *because of the even more tiny details* like the socket
> API, router CLI commands, and the address configuration mechanism.
>
> The major lower-layer atchitecture change in the last 30 years
> was completely unplanned: middleboxes.

The post-2013 general deployment of encryption is a pretty big change
too. It was only partially planned. And if QUIC comes to displace TCP,
that too would be a significant change.

-- Christian Huitema