Re: [dmarc-ietf] non-mailing list use case for differing header domains

Todd Herr <todd.herr@valimail.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 12:46 UTC

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From: Todd Herr <todd.herr@valimail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:46:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] non-mailing list use case for differing header domains
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 6:55 AM Laura Atkins <laura@wordtothewise.com>
wrote:

>
> I’m not sure why deliverability people are even mentioned here. The
> problems with DMARC primarily affect one-to-one or one-to-few mails, not
> bulk mails. The breakage DMARC causes doesn’t really affect marketing,
> newsletters or anything else sent through automated systems. I mean, yeah,
> some folks aren’t going to get their bulk mails because of DMARC failures
> but mail fails all the times for lots of different reasons.
>
>
>
Perhaps Autumn's use case and its mention of a bank that can't do DKIM
signing lead me down a path that may never be followed.

Where my mind went was to a place where an ESP was employed by a brand to
send mail, either bulk or transactional (or both), and such mail was sent
with the ESP domain as the domain in the "Sender:" field and the brand's
domain as the domain in the "From:" field (or vice versa), with each domain
publishing DMARC records. In such a scenario, it's possible that
conflicting DMARC validation results could occur, leading to the concern
over how such things might be handled.

If this is not a possible use case for these header fields, then please
accept my apologies for bringing deliverability into the discussion.

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