Re: [dmarc-ietf] third party authorization, not, was non-mailing list

Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> Wed, 26 August 2020 16:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] third party authorization, not, was non-mailing list
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On 8/25/20 7:39 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <b340be1f-0b0f-2bee-522c-d17b0393ac25@bluepopcorn.net> you write:
>>> If the list is somelist@lists.foo.org, does the signature have to be
>>> d=lists.foo.org?  How about d=foo.org?
>>>
>> This seems like an analogous situation to the DKIM i= flag, where the
>> domain MUST be the same as, or a subdomain of, the value of the d= flag.
>> So I'd recommend allowing d=foo.org.
> Well, OK, how about d=org?  This is the opposite of i=, superdomains rather than subdomains.


I see it as being in the same direction as i=, because we're talking
about being able to sign with a superdomain of [whatever identifier] in
both cases. But it doesn't really matter.

In principle, d=org would work too. The identified domain (list domain,
i=, whatever) always has to trust all higher level domains: because they
delegate the DNS to the lower level, they could in principle add their
own selector records if they wanted to spoof the subdomain. But I
haven't ever heard of that being a problem.

-Jim