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Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)

David Singer <singer@apple.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 19:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)
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> On Dec 3, 2014, at 21:16 , Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Indeed, that's why I said point 1. in David's list doesn't make sense, since he's talking about a small company getting sued by Nokia.

So, your conclusion to my question is “Ship VP8, most of you probably won’t get sued. Good luck.  Try not to be too successful or your luck may change.”

It is an answer; I don’t think it’s a good one, myself.



David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.

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