Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 16 March 2016 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users
To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
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On 3/16/16 8:34 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
>
> Sure. There are plenty of negative aspects of any technology. I'm
> making an assertion that we need to be aware that we're throwing the
> baby out with the bathwater when we take steps to block Tor (such as
> engaging CloudFlare's DDoS protection), while you seem to be willfully
> ignorant of the presence of the baby at all.

It's not bathwater, but a cesspool, and I do not know just how much baby
was ever there.