Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 21 October 2020 16:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"
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Le 21/10/2020 à 17:30, Bob Hinden a écrit : > Behcet, > >> On Oct 21, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Behcet Sarikaya >> <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:50 AM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> >> wrote: Can anyone point to a specification on Starlink? >> >> Without that, this thread seems pretty content free. >> >> I had started this thread with a mail to Fred thinking that as a >> person from a major vendor in aviation industry, he Or someone in >> this list may have something technical. That includes yourself as >> the chair. > > Thanks, actually I did some searches and couldn’t find anything. > Also couldn’t find an email to try to contact someone at Starlink. > If someone knows anyone there on the technical side, I would be happy > to try to see what I could find out. Thanks for the explanation. I heard these discussions about Starlink Beta testing available to someone situated in USA. It's said that it is probably sufficient to subscribe to a newsletter and then they might contact back. Alex >>> <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Fred, >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:24 PM Templin (US), Fred L >>> <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: Behcet, >>> >>> >>> >>> It is 12GHz >>> >>> >>> >>> Would that frequency spectrum be compatible for use on mobile >>> vehicular platforms >>> >>> (e.g., cars, drones, helicopters, planes, etc.). Because it comes >>> from Tesla, can we >>> >>> expect at least cars? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, Starlink certainly aims at connecting Tesla cars to their >>> network, they are currently connected with 4G links >>> >>> Do you think that 12GHz causes issues on mobile vehicular >>> platforms? >>> >>> Behcet Thanks - Fred >>> >>> >>> >>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Behcet >>> Sarikaya Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 12:17 PM To: Alexandre >>> Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Cc: 6man WG >>> <ipv6@ietf.org> Subject: Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alexandre Petrescu >>> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 19/10/2020 à 17:58, Behcet Sarikaya a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:20 AM Templin (US), Fred L >>>> <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Seems like an “IPv6-over-foo” document might be in order; >>>> anyone care to____ >>>> >>>> join me on that?____ >>>> >>>> __ >>>> >>>> >>>> IPv6-over-foo on Starlink section would look like >>>> >>>> TBD until more is revealed >>> >>> One in USA could look at the regulator's public database and find >>> which frequency channel is allocated for Tesla for Starlink. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> It is 12GHz >>> >>> >>> >>> From that, one could find which encoders are available on that >>> frequency. From that one could find which protocols are on it. >>> It makes for a 'foo' in 'IPv6 over foo'. The link layer. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know how to do these? >>> >>> >>> >>> Behcet >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Behcet >>>> >>>> __ >>>> >>>> Fred____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> *From:*Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>] *Sent:* Monday, October 19, >>>> 2020 8:14 AM *To:* Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca >>>> <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca>>; 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org >>>> <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>> *Cc:* Templin (US), Fred L >>>> <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6"____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> Thanks Michael, I'd like to know as much as possible how IPv6 >>>> works in Starlink.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Behcet____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:47 PM Michael Richardson >>>> <mcr@sandelman.ca <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca>> wrote:____ >>>> >>>> Anyone read anything more specific about what Starlink is doing >>>> that is "simpler than IPv6"? >>>> >>>> I'd sure like to know that it permits end-terminal to >>>> end-terminal communicatons without a trip through a data >>>> center. >>>> >>>> -- ] Never tell me the odds! | >>>> ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software >>>> Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca >>>> <mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca> http://www.sandelman.ca/ >>>> <http://www.sandelman.ca/> | ruby on rails [ >>>> >>>> >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative >>>> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative >>> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative >>> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative > Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
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- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [atn] Embedding IP information… Mark Smith
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [atn] Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… 神明達哉
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- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
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- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… otroan
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- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… 神明達哉
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Philip Homburg
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Philip Homburg
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… otroan
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… otroan
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in an IPv… Bob Hinden
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in an IPv… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information… Philip Homburg
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Ted Hardie
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Ole Troan
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in an IPv… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in … Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in … Bob Hinden
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in … Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in … Vasilenko Eduard
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in … Bob Hinden
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Bob Hinden
- RE: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [atn] Embedding IP information in an IPv6 add… Michael Richardson
- RE: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Philip Homburg
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Bob Hinden
- Re: [atn] Embedding IP information in an IPv6 add… Bob Hinden
- Re: Embedding IP information in an IPv6 address (… Michael Richardson
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [atn] Embedding IP information… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Philip Homburg
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Embedding IP information in an… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Bob Hinden
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Bob Hinden
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Embedding IP information in an IPv… Bob Hinden
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Bob Hinden
- Re: Starlink --- "simpler than IPv6" Alexandre Petrescu