Re: [perpass] perens-perpass-appropriate-response-01

Bruce Perens <bruce@perens.com> Sat, 07 December 2013 07:29 UTC

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On 12/06/2013 01:20 PM, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
If the attacker can see your fetches he can execute a man-on-the-side attack through packet injection.
This is the first one I've seen that is actually compelling. But it's an authentication problem rather than a confidentiality one.