Re: [rtcweb] Use Case draft - Eavesdropping.

"Cavigioli, Chris" <chris.cavigioli@intel.com> Tue, 01 May 2012 14:14 UTC

Return-Path: <chris.cavigioli@intel.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB0021E83D4 for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -10.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sO+O8+NinKis for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mga11.intel.com (mga11.intel.com [192.55.52.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB0121E83C4 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by fmsmga102.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 01 May 2012 07:14:43 -0700
X-ExtLoop1: 1
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,315,1320652800"; d="scan'208";a="160435679"
Received: from orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.49]) by fmsmga002.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 01 May 2012 07:14:43 -0700
Received: from orsmsx102.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.225.129) by orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.226.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:14:42 -0700
Received: from orsmsx104.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.3.216]) by ORSMSX102.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.1.202]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:14:41 -0700
From: "Cavigioli, Chris" <chris.cavigioli@intel.com>
To: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [rtcweb] Use Case draft - Eavesdropping.
Thread-Index: Ac0kkPiuwYinP6GjTFWYkg4o1GLBJQDCjZYgAAI8ByA=
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 14:14:41 +0000
Message-ID: <E36D1A4AE0B6AA4091F1728D584A6AD2174ECCB2@ORSMSX104.amr.corp.intel.com>
References: <CA+9kkMCYArLPRP3c00UdOja64WRT6ghN0PSy7XvM_wbxBBB+vA@mail.gmail.com> <101C6067BEC68246B0C3F6843BCCC1E312992828BD@MCHP058A.global-ad.net>
In-Reply-To: <101C6067BEC68246B0C3F6843BCCC1E312992828BD@MCHP058A.global-ad.net>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.22.254.140]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Use Case draft - Eavesdropping.
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 14:14:44 -0000

Wording needs to be clarified.
- "Eavesdropping" has a negative connotation of someone inappropriately listening in to another communication.  This should not happen.
- "Lawful intercept" is something telecom service providers are required to provide to law enforcement with all appropriate safeguards in place http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception 
-chris

-----Original Message-----
From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hutton, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:14 AM
To: Ted Hardie; rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Use Case draft - Eavesdropping.

Hi,

A number of use cases within Draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07 contain the statement "It is essential that the communication cannot be eavesdropped" however there is no definition of what is actually meant by "eavesdropped" although I think we all have an idea of what it means.

Maybe it would be better to replace these statements with something that refers to wiretapping and RFC 2804 (RAVEN) which actually has a definition of wiretapping.

Regards
Andy




> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Ted Hardie
> Sent: 27 April 2012 17:15
> To: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: [rtcweb] Use Case draft
> 
> The chairs would like to ask the working group to focus on the use
> case draft.  If you have use cases that need to be added to the
> document or text changes you'd like to suggest, please send them in
> for discussion before May 15th.  After this round, we will look toward
> having a working group last call on the document (hopefully before the
> interim meeting).
> 
> regards,
> 
> Ted, Magnus, Cullen
> _______________________________________________
> rtcweb mailing list
> rtcweb@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
_______________________________________________
rtcweb mailing list
rtcweb@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb