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Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Sun, 13 September 2020 16:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])
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On 9/13/20 5:24 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> Am 12.09.2020 um 18:57 schrieb Robert Sparks:
>> One minor, but I think important, tweak to your commentary.
>>
>> On 9/12/20 3:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> On 2020-09-11, at 20:59, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>>>> I disagree.  If the I-D has expired, it should not be shown there.
>>> A little Saturday metacomment:
>>>
>>> This is a nice example of “process confabulation”, designing software
>>> for what SHOULD happen, not for what actually DOES (and NEEDS TO) 
>>> happen.
>>>
>>> Our discussion of Internet-Drafts is dominated by what I’ll call the
>>> “Expiry Doctrine” — Internet-Drafts expire and then no longer exist.
>>> Since this doctrine is obviously unworkable per se, we patch it up by
>>> providing a separate archive of expired drafts.
>> The archive is _all_ drafts, not just expired ones - the active ones are
>> there too. It is the stable thing you are asking for already. The
>> question I'm hearing is do we point more things at that by default.
>> ...
>
> Actually, the archive is all the draftf that have been submitted as v3
> XML. So generic code can't decide what to link to without inspecting the
> link target first.
No - the archive is all drafts, but v3 html won't exist for drafts that 
weren't submitted as v3 xml. Is that what you meant?
>
> Best regards, Julian
>
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