Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Sun, 13 September 2020 16:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])
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On 2020-09-13, at 18:33, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> For clarity - why isn't that the datatracker page for the draft?

Well, contrast

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis/

with

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis

The latter *is* the draft, with some status information (albeit somewhat cryptic for the uninitiated) prepended.
The datatracker page is a bit like a bugzilla page — tons of information, tons of affordance alternatives, little guidance (and two pages of the draft at the end even if drafts no longer really are meant to have pages).

Nobody who is confronted for the first time with the bugzillaish datatracker page will know what to click.  This is not a useful page to have in the references section of a paper, or to reference from a blog article.

Grüße, Carsten