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Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Sun, 13 September 2020 16:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])
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On 9/13/20 11:46 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2020-09-13, at 18:33, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
>> For clarity - why isn't that the datatracker page for the draft?
> Well, contrast
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis/
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> with
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis

How about https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis-14?

(Which is what Henrik was evolving from the tools htmlization, but the 
header information could also appear over a v3 rendering).

>
> The latter *is* the draft, with some status information (albeit somewhat cryptic for the uninitiated) prepended.
> The datatracker page is a bit like a bugzilla page — tons of information, tons of affordance alternatives, little guidance (and two pages of the draft at the end even if drafts no longer really are meant to have pages).
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> Nobody who is confronted for the first time with the bugzillaish datatracker page will know what to click.  This is not a useful page to have in the references section of a paper, or to reference from a blog article.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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