Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org]

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 11 September 2020 17:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org]
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Robert,

> On Sep 11, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> Note the comment I added.
> 
> Right now if a group abandons a draft, the current behavior (where the draft disappears when it expires) could be considered a feature.
> 
> With the change, chairs will have to be more careful about explicitly marking abandoned drafts.

I agree, with this change they will see the abandoned drafts in the list of w.g. drafts and will be reminded to formally abandon them.

Bob


> 
> RjS
> 
> On 9/11/20 9:53 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:
>> I've created https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/3078
>> 
>> On 9/11/20 9:30 AM, Bob Hinden wrote:
>>> Russ,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Somewhat related to disappearing IDs.   We had a w.g. draft expire today.  It disappeared from
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6man/documents/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The authors are working on an update, but I think that adopted w.g. drafts should not disappear from the w.g. document page if they expire.  They are still w.g. drafts (that is, we won’t need to do another adoption call).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can this be fixed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>> There is no need for an additional call for adoption.  When the revision is posted, it will appear in the list.
>>>> 
>>> I knew that, but I would like to see w.g. drafts not time out on the w.g. status page.   Once adopted they have official status.  I think we do this for drafts sent to the IESG.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Russ
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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