Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org]
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 11 September 2020 17:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org]
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Robert, > On Sep 11, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote: > > Note the comment I added. > > Right now if a group abandons a draft, the current behavior (where the draft disappears when it expires) could be considered a feature. > > With the change, chairs will have to be more careful about explicitly marking abandoned drafts. I agree, with this change they will see the abandoned drafts in the list of w.g. drafts and will be reminded to formally abandon them. Bob > > RjS > > On 9/11/20 9:53 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> I've created https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/3078 >> >> On 9/11/20 9:30 AM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>> Russ, >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Somewhat related to disappearing IDs. We had a w.g. draft expire today. It disappeared from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6man/documents/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The authors are working on an update, but I think that adopted w.g. drafts should not disappear from the w.g. document page if they expire. They are still w.g. drafts (that is, we won’t need to do another adoption call). >>>>> >>>>> Can this be fixed? >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>> There is no need for an additional call for adoption. When the revision is posted, it will appear in the list. >>>> >>> I knew that, but I would like to see w.g. drafts not time out on the w.g. status page. Once adopted they have official status. I think we do this for drafts sent to the IESG. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>>> Russ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> >>> or send email to >>> datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> >>> or send email to >>> webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> >> or send email to >> datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> >> or send email to >> webmaster@tools.ietf.org > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org
- [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Carsten Bormann
- [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. status … Bob Hinden
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expired draft on the w.g. sta… Brian E Carpenter
- [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draf… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Nico Williams
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Nico Williams
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … S Moonesamy
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Julian Reschke
- [Tools-discuss] it is worse than I thought: (was … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … worley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Joe Touch
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Joseph Touch
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Joe Touch
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Joseph Touch
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired … Paul Hoffman