Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])

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Am 12.09.2020 um 18:57 schrieb Robert Sparks:
> One minor, but I think important, tweak to your commentary.
>
> On 9/12/20 3:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On 2020-09-11, at 20:59, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>>> I disagree.  If the I-D has expired, it should not be shown there.
>> A little Saturday metacomment:
>>
>> This is a nice example of “process confabulation”, designing software
>> for what SHOULD happen, not for what actually DOES (and NEEDS TO) happen.
>>
>> Our discussion of Internet-Drafts is dominated by what I’ll call the
>> “Expiry Doctrine” — Internet-Drafts expire and then no longer exist.
>> Since this doctrine is obviously unworkable per se, we patch it up by
>> providing a separate archive of expired drafts.
> The archive is _all_ drafts, not just expired ones - the active ones are
> there too. It is the stable thing you are asking for already. The
> question I'm hearing is do we point more things at that by default.
> ...

Actually, the archive is all the draftf that have been submitted as v3
XML. So generic code can't decide what to link to without inspecting the
link target first.

Best regards, Julian