Re: [Tools-discuss] Expiry Doctrine (Re: Expired draft on the w.g. status pages [was Re: disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org])

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 23 September 2020 16:28 UTC

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Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Tools Team Discussion <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
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> On Sep 23, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
>> So what exactly are you suggesting to change?
> 
> The way we refer to our artifacts.
> 
> We need a stable reference...

Drafts are drafts unless they’re not. 

Drafts expire unless they don’t. 

Treating them as artifacts in need of a stable reference means they’re not drafts anymore. They’re just versions. 

So assign RFC numbers when they’re initially submitted and allow rev numbers or don’t. 

But if they’re not drafts, again we should just publish them to arXiv and skip all the irrelevant IETF mechanism. 

Joe