Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-3@u-1.phicoh.com> Wed, 06 August 2014 14:44 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:44:03 +0200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment
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In your letter dated Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:32:43 +0200 you wrote:
>Why do you find it so hard to accept that "dual-stack inside" is not
>a desirable property?

I find that very easy to accept. Except that from my point of view the
proposals presented to avoid dual stack are worse. 

The way I see it, translating IPv4 into IPv6 is just going to bite you.

Now, tunneling IPv4 over IPv6 may work, if the tunneling is local and
if the tunnel preserves a 1500 octet MTU for IPv4.

At the end of the day, all externally visible stuff still has to have IPv4.
That is dual stack, no matter how you slice it.