Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> Tue, 05 August 2014 15:08 UTC

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On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> wrote:
> * Ca By
>
>> With 464xlat, afaik, there are globally 3 cellular providers that offer
>> default ipv6 (464xlat at tmobile us and Orange PL and DS at VZ).
>
> Make that four, Telenor Norway has been doing IPv6-only/NAT64/464XLAT
> since early June.
>
> http://www.telenor.no/privat/kundeservice/mobilhjelp/internettpamobilen/feilsokingmmsoginternett.jsp
>
> So far only one model (Samsung S5) defaults to the new IPv6-only APN,
> but from what I hear they'll keep adding new models and push OTA updates
> to other existing ones.
>

This is excellent.  Well done Telenor.

CB

> * Brian E Carpenter
>
>>> (In parenthesis, I've never seen sunsetting IPv4 as a real problem.
>>> One day somebody will notice that there are no more IPv4 packets. But
>>> that is many years in the future.)
>
> The thing is, if you've built your infrastructure on IPv4, removing it
> is going to be a royal pain in the arse. Even if all the IPv4 users have
> left the public internet, if your application server speaks to your
> database server over IPv4, and the database server speaks to the iSCSI
> array over IPv4, and so on and so on, then you're simply not in a
> position to easily shut IPv4 off.
>
> Tore
>