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Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Mon, 25 August 2014 14:01 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Kossut Tomasz - Hurt <Tomasz.Kossut@orange.com>, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment
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Thanks for the update… and indeed, in non-English native countries (like mine), local content is important… but very difficult to get moving to IPv6 (I mean the business/political reason to move, not the technical move itself with the help of CDN)

-éric

From: Kossut Tomasz - Hurt <Tomasz.Kossut@orange.com<mailto:Tomasz.Kossut@orange.com>>
Date: lundi 25 août 2014 15:57
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com<mailto:evyncke@cisco.com>>, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com<mailto:lorenzo@google.com>>
Cc: IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org<mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>>, Czerwonka Michał 1 - Hurt <Michal.Czerwonka1@orange.com<mailto:Michal.Czerwonka1@orange.com>>
Subject: RE: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

HI,
Ipv6 traffic for OPL Ipv6 mobile subscribers returns to its “normal” values.
Native Ipv6=60%,NAT64=40%*

*- mainly national content, If polish national top 10 Alexa content becomes Ipv6 then 90% traffic will be Ipv6…
So if you now IPv6 readiness for your national top Alexa sites you can estimate how much NAT64 you can expect.

Regards,
TK


From: Kossut Tomasz - Hurt
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 4:19 PM
To: 'Eric Vyncke (evyncke)'; Lorenzo Colitti
Cc: IPv6 Ops WG
Subject: RE: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

Hi,
Internet traffic for OPL ipv6 -464xlat users (3G/4G)
Traffic till mid-July:
Ipv6 -60% (78% to Google)
Nat64 -40%
Traffic from mid-July up to now:
Ipv6 – 40%* (50% to Google)
Nat64- 60%

*On W28 we noticed abnormal drop of AAAA queries generated by users. It looks like some DS servers becomes Ipv4 only, or web browser ipv4 fallback takes place more often.. (we analyzing data)

Regards,
Tomasz

From: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) [mailto:evyncke@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 2:12 PM
To: Lorenzo Colitti
Cc: IPv6 Ops WG
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

Lorenzo

For my education, do you have a pointer for a data point on:

From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com<mailto:lorenzo@google.com>>
A 4G handset with 464xlat will have ~50% of traffic native IPv6, ~45% NAT64, and ~5% 464xlat. 464 conversion is lossy and brittle, but if it's only used for 5% of traffic, then the operator might just say, "Who cares? I don't; and if somebody else does, they're free to use IPv6."

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