Re: [v6ops] Operational Consensus on deployment

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Tue, 05 August 2014 02:09 UTC

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On Aug 4, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:

> 
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Azure would still need the IPv4 addresses because the rest of the
>> world as a whole has not moved to IPv6 yet.  While datacenters may
>> be able to move to IPv6 only internally there is still a external
>> need for IPv4 addresses.  IPv6 only gives some IPv4 address saving
>> but not that much on the server side.  We are still a long way from
>> turning off IPv4 servers.
> 
> That’s sort of the point of Tore’s document, with the exception that you can indeed move IPv4 addresses to *only* the edge using his mechanism.
> 
> That said, if you have an IPv6-capable data center and are selling it as a service to customers, that gives you a vehicle to discuss IPv6 with the customers. “I have a scarce resource that I can charge you for, and a plentiful resource I can charge you for. Which would you like to be charged for?”

FWIW, Hurricane Electric charges for IPv4. We do not charge for IPv6. We apply ARIN compliant needs tests to all North American customer allocations/assignments and appropriate RIPE/APNIC criteria in those regions.

Owen