Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hours (for US)

Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 07 August 2012 17:10 UTC

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 1:05 PM 8/7/12, Bob Hinden wrote:

> John,
> 
>> The example is even a little worse.  There is no little plastic
>> card for GE.  There is, at most, an unobtrusive little sticker
>> on the back of the passport.   I've never asked, but suspected
>> that this is a security-by-obscurity to prevent issues with GE
>> participants or making some passports special targets that might
>> occur if GE participants were prominently identified.  Teaching
>> those door bureaucrats to identify a GE participant would be
>> really hard since, essentially, only the traveler and the
>> machine and its databases really know.
> 
> I received a card along with GE.  It didn't cost extra.  I am still not exactly sure what it is for, but that's another matter.

The card might be useful to prove your GE status in a situation where the line for immigration extends well past the entrance for the GE queue.  I've seen this situation at IAD and the guy with the GE passport was not treated all that politely when it appeared he was just trying to push his way to the head of the line.

- Ralph

> 
> I had an interesting but pleasantly successful departure yesterday afternoon.  I found the GE/Nexus line and got to the machines avoiding the lines.  Both of the GE machines were "out of service".  I assumed I would have to fill out the form.  I went ahead (without a form) and was directed to one of the agents.  I told him the GE machine was out of service.  He lookup up my passport, asked me if I had anything to declare (I didn't), and that was it.  Can't beat that for service!
> 
> Bob
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