[84attendees] US immigration vs. customs

<david.black@emc.com> Mon, 06 August 2012 18:21 UTC

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Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 14:21:15 -0400
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It's even possible to be in both places at once wrt different
parts of the US government.  On the train to Seattle, US
immigration was in Vancouver, but customs was at the border in
Blaine, WA.

A similar thing happens when a ship that's called
at foreign ports calls at a US port before its US destination;
immigration is at the first port (e.g., Key West), but customs
is at the destination (e.g., Miami).

Thanks,
--David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Wes Hardaker
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 2:16 PM
> To: Andrew Sullivan
> Cc: 84attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hours (for US)
> 
> Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> writes:
> 
> > the US Immigration area (what I call "Americaland" when I tell my wife
> > I am hanging up) in any Canadian airport with pre-screening.
> 
> They even have a nice sign that says "welcome to the United States" but
> for some reason, still make you pay in Canadian currency and your
> cell-phone provider still labels you as roaming.  Note, that if you step
> onto a ship docked onto a US harbor they like to label you immediately
> as international roaming, from what I understand.  They want it both
> ways apparently.
> --
> Wes Hardaker
> SPARTA, Inc.
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