Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #55 - Clarify legal and privacy implications of failure reports

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Mon, 28 December 2020 15:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #55 - Clarify legal and privacy implications of failure reports
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On 12/28/20 7:48 AM, Todd Herr wrote:
>  not a lawyer, but providing A with some information about a message 
> that A sent to X seems different, from a privacy perspective, than 
> providing A with some information about a message impersonating A that 
> B sent to X, and I thought perhaps the generic warning might mention 
> this distinction, if possible. Something like:
>
>     Security considerations
>
>     Failure reports provide detailed information about the failure of a
>     single message or a group of similar messages failing for the same
>     reason. They are meant to aid domain owners to detect why failures
>     reported in aggregate form occured. It is important to note these
>     reports can contain either the header or the entire content of a
>     failed message, AND THAT THE DOMAIN OWNER RECEIVING THE
>     REPORTS MAY NOT BE THE ORIGINATING PARTY FOR THE MESSAGE(S)
>     REFERENCED IN THE FAILURE REPORTS. IN ANY CASE, THEY may contain
>     personally identifiable information, which should be considered
>     when deciding
>     whether to generate such reports.
>
>

This is a tempest in a tea pot. This is an issue with the originating 
domain and nobody else. They can send it to a third party even if the 
url lists them to receive the report first.  The receiving domain can't 
know what they will do with the report, and the originating domain has 
already seen the mail in clear text before it was sent. IETF should stay 
out of the business of being nannies that it has no way to enforce.

Mike