Re: [hrpc] Censorship

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 15/03/2022 à 02:01, [e-mail] a écrit :
> One can find many good articles on sanctions and their history, for
> example one paywalled Economist article:
>
>    https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/04/22/sanctions-are-now-a-central-tool-of-governments-foreign-policy
>
> Brief Summary:
>
> 1. Modern economic sanction regimes arose from the League of Nations
> as an alternative to warfare after the War To End All Wars #1.
>
> 2. An historical review of the past 100 years indicates they only very
> rarely work except perhaps in situations where the targeted party is
> not very committed to whatever the others wish changed.
>
> More often the target finds ways to retaliate (e.g., the US sanctions
> China, China sanctions the US.)
>
> 3. One consistent failure of sanctions is they're rarely removed other
> than the rare case where some measurable compliance is achieved.
>
> The US has had severe sanctions against Cuba for well over 50
> years. Rather than considering their goals and whether they should or
> should not continue to be pursued the sanctions themselves become an
> internal political football, a litmus test of which side one is on
> philosophically (e.g., do you or do you not tolerate small, tropical
> communist governments.)
>
> Which is why I keep asking those who would like to impose sanctions
> such as interfering with Russia's internet connectivity: Under what
> specific circumstances would you end those sanctions?

When there is peace and everyone is happy again :-)

The answer to that question might have to do with the ongoing 
negotiations Ukr-Rus.  They have a number of publicly known, and other 
private, requests and positions to fulfill.  Among the publicly known 
requests are claims to territory, troop movements, humanitarian 
corridories.  Some less known, put still public, requests are 
'orientation' requests, i.e. a country requests another country where to 
'orient', to look more at some thing than another thing.  The private 
requests are only known by them at this time.

What can be said now, is probably that a timeline to end Internet 
connection sanctions might be closely following the timeline of 
discussion and implementaiton of the Ukr-Rus negotiations.

Also, in the current requests often words like 'never do this' or 'do 
this forever', are hard to implement.

There is a timeline of EU sanctions since 2014.   In it, one can see 
that some sanctions are indefinite, some are prolonged every X months, 
and others I couldnt have time to read. 
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-ukraine-crisis/history-ukraine-crisis/

Alex


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