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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 11 March 2022 16:41 UTC

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On 11/03/2022 16:38, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> I have to say I'm not warming to the concept myself, for
>> a few reasons - the overall history of blocklists isn't so
>> clean and I'm unconvinced attempting to add transparency
>> is either doable or would be effective. Secondly, IIUC a
>> lot of the bad actors (that I'd envisage) already have a
>> modus-operandi where they originate traffic from other
>> people's networks, so a blocklist even if accurate might
>> be moot. And lastly, convincingly demonstrating correct
>> (or at least believable) attribution seems like it might
>> just not be possible in any open manner.
> 
> So, just block everybody and let god sort them out?

Not what I said, nor implied.

> 
> Because that’s the status quo, and the problem we’re trying to fix.

I accept that this is attempting an improvement and is
proposed in good faith. I'm just pretty unconvinced it's
a good plan.

Cheers,
S.

> 
>                                  -Bill
>

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