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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 11 March 2022 16:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Censorship
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Hiya,

On 11/03/2022 08:57, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf
> 

I have to say I'm not warming to the concept myself, for
a few reasons - the overall history of blocklists isn't so
clean and I'm unconvinced attempting to add transparency
is either doable or would be effective. Secondly, IIUC a
lot of the bad actors (that I'd envisage) already have a
modus-operandi where they originate traffic from other
people's networks, so a blocklist even if accurate might
be moot. And lastly, convincingly demonstrating correct
(or at least believable) attribution seems like it might
just not be possible in any open manner.

That said, having a venue for discussion of these topics
seems like a good idea, as would some discussion during
the upcoming IETF meeting. (I'm sure recent awful events
mean that last will happen in any case.)

Cheers,
S.

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