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Re: [hrpc] Censorship

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Fri, 11 March 2022 18:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Censorship
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The internet is infrastructure. It must always be there and when broken must be fixed. Punishing citizens for their government actions by crippling infrastructure is always wrong.

Paul

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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 13:17, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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>> Il 11/03/2022 17:38 Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> ha scritto:
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>> So, just block everybody and let god sort them out?
>> 
>> Because that’s the status quo, and the problem we’re trying to fix.
> 
> As that seems to be your strongest motivation, I am curious to understand why. I mean, I agree that your proposal would be far better than Ukraine's, but as far as I know, almost no one at ICANN or at RIPE has argued in favour of removing TLDs from the root, invalidating certificates or deleting IP space. Both institutions have clearly said that, while sympathizing with Ukraine's situation, they will not agree to the request. So how is that "the status quo"?
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> Personally, my motivation for supporting your proposal would actually be the opposite - enabling limited but focused sanctions as an alternative to doing nothing.
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> -- vb.
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