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Re: Quic: the elephant in the room

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Mon, 12 April 2021 15:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: Quic: the elephant in the room
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
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On 4/12/21 8:22 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:14 AM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com 
> <mailto:mike@mtcc.com>> wrote:
>
>     So the whole world needs to revolve around somebody's corner case.
>
>
> Welcome to my world.
>
> If you want to get this deployed, you are far more likely to make 
> progress by working out a way to meet Rich's need than by dismissing him.
>
> The fact that Rich's customers are shredding the DNS to get what they 
> need is itself rather significant. That is clearly a pain point and 
> thus a place where new solutions are likely to be of interest.
>
As I said, if certificates work better for your use case, use them. The 
rest of the world shouldn't be held hostage to somebody else's corner 
case. There is literally nothing that needs to be done to accommodate him.

Mike

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