Re: [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: Documents from the ICG Meeting Last Week are Available)
Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> Mon, 21 July 2014 20:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: Documents from the ICG Meeting Last Week are Available)
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Yeah, that was a mistake. If you ever get around to responding to the main point that would be ... well, too late at this point. On 7/21/14 1:08 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Since you asked on list, I'll reply, but I don't think this is the > right list to pursue this discussion and if we're going to have to do > that I suggest perhaps DNSOP or the dns-operations OARC list or > perhaps dnsext@ietf.org (which is still open), depending on whether > you want to talk about protocol or operations. > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:40:44PM -0700, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: > >> P.S. Exactly what is wrong with 5 octet labels? With 4 octet labels? >> With 3 octet labels? And finally, with 2 octet labels? > Nothing, in principle. In practice, it depends. You might want to > have a look at RFC 6912. Even though it was particularly about > Unicode code points for U-labels, the general principles outlined > there are useful in other ways too. > >> P.P.S. Exactly what is wrong with a terminal label consisting only >> of characters in the 0-9 range, that is not completely cured by a >> requirement that the next subordinate label contain one or more >> characters from the range g-z? > Well, the actual terminal label cannot contain any characters at all, > but I think you knew that and meant the second-to-last label > (conventionally called a TLD). So, first, there's actually no > technical way to require what you're saying, really. That's what > "delegation" means. You could do it with contracts, though. > > But what you're really saying is that the heuristic implied in RFC > 1123 might break. That seems like an extremely incautious thing to > do, and therefore a responsible operator of the root zone wouldn't do > it. Technology is not infinitely plastic: once you have deployed > something, it affects the world. In the case of the DNS, the way it > has affected the world is partly based in the assumptions people have > about what their software may depend on. > > Best regards, > > A >
- [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting … Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- [Internetgovtech] Cross community (was: Re: ICANN… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: Docu… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: … Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross comm… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross … John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
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- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
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