Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting Last Week are Available
Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> Mon, 21 July 2014 14:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting Last Week are Available
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Hi, I am not necessarily looking for joint efforts - though it might be nice, just allowing for any of the communities to produce recommendations on any of the aspects. There are cross over concerns, for example in ICANN the Advisory Committees (At Large, Government, Security etc) have purview to advise on addresses as well as numbers and even parameters when it concerns tech that will be used to manage those names and numbers. Why does our process say that they can't make recommendations on that? Likewise the IETF has great concerns over the allocations of some names and may want to make a suggestion of how the allocation of names is done given the IETF's decision that it is able to assign names for protocol reasons. That is a tussle waiting in the wings that needs to come out into the light for all of this assignment of responsibilities. Yes, the IETF will naturally choose to mostly produce recommendations on parameters, but need it be limited to that? Likewise with the other groups. I have no problem with the notion of an expectation that mostly parameters will be covered by IETF and names by GNSO and the ccNSO, and numbers by the NRO. What I have problems with is the construction of silo walls that indicate an expectation that others might not have standing and ability to contribute to the proposed solutions on particular subjects. I do not want there to be a possibility that someone calls an uncomfortable recommendaton out of scope for the organization making it. As for this have been handed down, I do not remember there ever being a community wide discussion on slice and dice, just announcements of this being the way it would be from various leaders. avri On 21-Jul-14 10:31, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:26:08AM -0400, Avri Doria wrote: >> I fund this silo approach very problematic and more likely to produce a >> disjointed set of solutions > > Where would be the joint whereof you speak? To put this another way, > in my opinion protocol parameters belong squarely in the IETF's > purview, and nobody else's. Similarly, given the protocols, names > fall squarely into ICANN's purview, no? What is the "joint" that > wouldn't be better solved (in the case of names) by working within the > ICANN community? Similarly for number resources, except a different > community. > > I don't think there's any handed-down-ness about it. This is a fully > community-based approach, I think. > > A >
- [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meeting … Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Avri Doria
- [Internetgovtech] Cross community (was: Re: ICANN… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: Docu… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] off topic: labels (was Re: … Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross comm… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Policy aspects (was: Cross … John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Documents from the ICG Meet… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community JFC Morfin
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eliot Lear
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Russ Housley
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Avri Doria
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community John Curran
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community S Moonesamy
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Seun Ojedeji
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Steve Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Steve Crocker
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Eric Burger
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Internetgovtech] Cross community Jari Arkko