Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 24 October 2014 15:06 UTC
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:21:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review
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Hi Suzanne, At 05:50 24-10-2014, Suzanne Woolf wrote: >Off the top of my head, just in the groups I follow closely: There >is another ICANN staffer I know of participating in DPRIVE; he also >has a long history as a protocol designer and implementer in matters >DNS and WHOIS/PROVREG/WEIRDS. There's at least one person who's held >formal roles in the GNSO who has also been an IETF participant, >including discussions in DNSOP (and at least a couple more who have >posted to IANAPLAN). The CTO of APNIC posted just the other day to >WEIRDS, and some other APNIC staff are extremely well-known in DNS >and routing groups in the IETF. Staff from RIPE and LACNIC >participate in DNSOP discussions and other DNS-related work such as >recent BOFs. Assorted technologists, some very senior, associated >with TLD operators participate in both ICANN and IETF discussions, >and various TLD operators sponsor IETF participation for employees >and contractors as contributors, including WG chairs and IAB members >from time to time. > >It depends a bit on what you mean by "affiliated," if you're >seriously trying to assess cross-participation, but if nothing else, >experience suggests that counting noses (or email addresses) isn't >actually that helpful. I usually count reviews. For what it is worth, I was not counting email addresses. >Would it be better if there was slightly more overlap among >ICANN/RIR staff, participants in their processes from other >organizations, and participation in the IETF? Probably. (For >example, we'd want input from people intimately familiar with >matters ICANN in any process to revisit RFC 6761, whether they were >ICANN staff or not.) Is the option open to everyone? Yes. Do they >sometimes take advantage of it? Yes. > >Eliot's language could stand some tinkering, but I can live with it. >Since I owe him text on another point, I'll suggest while I'm here >the following revision: > >"It is important to note that the IETF includes anyone who wishes to >participate, including staff or other participants from ICANN or the >Regional Internet Registries (RIRs), and people affiliated with >those organizations regularly do." The suggested text looks better than what is currently in the draft. I could settle for that. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Leslie Daigle (TCE)
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- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Justine Lera
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review - more (po… John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review JFC Morfin