Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 24 October 2014 09:29 UTC

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 02:02:26 -0700
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Hi Eliot,
At 03:01 02-09-2014, Eliot Lear wrote:
>Well, but that was just the start of my list.  Steve Crocker is the 
>chair of the board of ICANN, and he's also the author of RFC 1 
>(among many others), a former security AD, and an occasional contributor.

 From draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-01:

   "It is important to note that the IETF includes anyone who wishes to
    participate, including anyone from ICANN or the regional Internet
    registries (RIRs), and many people from those organizations regularly
    do."

None of the persons listed at 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm participate in DNS 
discussions on IETF mailing lists.  That can be easily verified by 
looking at 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/maillist.html  I 
looked at 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/maillist.html I do 
not see any person affiliated with ICANN or the RIRs participating on 
that mailing list.  I looked at 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ianaplan/current/maillist.html 
There was the CEO of ARIN and the CTO of ICANN participating in the 
discussions.

I haven't seen your list yet. :-)  In my opinion the quoted text (see 
above) is to make ICANN and the RIRs look good.  That might be 
appropriate in the IAB Stream instead of the IETF Stream.


   "The IETF operates an open and transparent manner [RFC6852]."

The reference to RFC 6852 is promoting IAB views instead of the views 
of the IETF (as documented in Standards Track RFCs).

I suggest removing the promotional material from the draft.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy