Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Mon, 01 September 2014 20:23 UTC
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Hi Eric, At 09:14 01-09-2014, Eric Burger wrote: >I think the disconnect is we talk about ICANN so much we think >anything that starts with an 'I' means ICANN. IANA is the Internet >Assigned Numbers Authority. IANA has /nothing/ to do with ICANN, >except for the fact that ICANN /happens/ to perform the IANA >function. They are a contractor for the IETF. IANA is /not/ ICANN. Yes. I read http://www.ntia.doc.gov/page/iana-functions-purchase-order >The IANA function is separable from domain names and IP addresses, >although there are economies of scale and management from keeping >them together. Since the IANA function is created by fiat from the >IETF contract, I see no problem using the terms "IETF Protocol >Parameters Registry" and the "IANA function." The IANA function is >the /embodiment/ of the IETF Protocol Parameters Registry. I understand the above. >However, I agree with your next comment, and I have some proposed text. I'll comment below. >Please see my previous comment about that. > >I agree with you here: the use of the term IANA protocol parameter >registry is sloppy. Ok. > Let's go with: >Many IETF protocols make use of commonly defined protocol >parameters. Implementers use these parameters. Implementers are the >IETF's primary users of the IETF standards and other documents. A >globally available registry contains the parameter values and a >pointer to documentation of the associated semantic intent. This >registry, the IETF Protocol Parameters Registry, provides this >service to ensure consistent interpretation of these parameter >values by independent implementations. Historically, the Internet >Assigned Numbers Authority has, under contract, operated the IETF >Protocol Parameters Registry. That sounds better. >Eliot addressed this issue better than I did. The substantive issue >is that we have an open process that already has all of the major >players (and lots of minor players like me) involved. I would not describe you as a minor player. I commented about participation in my reply to Eliot. >The IAB operates on behalf of the IETF. I don't see the issue. Please see my comment to Eliot. >On the one hand, we have a lot of references to IETF documents. On >the other hand, if a casual reader thinks we do not have enough >references, we can have more. The point was to be able to substantiate what is in the text of the draft. As an example, there are is a reference for the intent to form a working group. Regards, S. Moonesamy
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- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Leslie Daigle (TCE)
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- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Justine Lera
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
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- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
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