Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 30 August 2014 14:44 UTC
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 07:38:33 -0700
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, ianaplan@ietf.org
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Hi Eliot, At 00:32 30-08-2014, Eliot Lear wrote: >I have posted a -00 draft that seeks to respond to the most current >version of the RFP I could get my hands on. Would you kindly >provide some thoughts about it? I am most particularly concerned >about substance at the moment. The sorts of things I'm looking for are these: >Is the text in the "IETF Response" accurate and in fact responsive >to the question? >Is there anything missing? >Is there anything that does not parse well? Did you think "Huh??" >when you read a sentence? >My intent is to have a second version out prior to the cutoff for >the Honolulu meeting as a candidate for the IANAPLAN working group >to adopt, assuming the working group is chartered. "The IETF is a global voluntary standards organization whose goal is to make the Internet work better [RFC3595]." The IETF cannot be a MIB module. :-) Quoting from the draft: "The customer of the IANA protocol parameters function is the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)." The above is inconsistent with a stated IETF position. "1. The IETF protocol parameter registry function has been and continues to be capably provided by the Internet technical community." What is the "Internet technical community"? "The IETF uses the IANA protocol parameter registries for this purpose." The above is not aligned with the stated position of the IETF. Quoting two parts of the responses out of context: "It is important to note that the IETF includes anyone who wishes to participate, including anyone from ICANN or the RIRs, and many people from those organizations regularly do." "In-person attendance is not required for participation, and many people participate in email discussions that have never attended an IETF meeting." I scanned the ietf@ mailing list archives and I did not find anyone from ICANN or the RIRs participating on that mailing list. "Because of the nature of the agreement, questions of jurisdiction are immaterial." Why are questions of jurisdictions immaterial? "Any modifications to the protocol parameter registry function should be made using the IETF process" The above is incorrect. The IETF responses are not well-formulated in my opinion. There isn't any reference to the IANA Functions contract. As this topic has been mentioned I'll comment. From https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en "The mission of The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN") is to coordinate, at the overall level, the global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, and in particular to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems. In particular, ICANN: 1. Coordinates the allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique identifiers for the Internet, which are "c. Protocol port and parameter numbers." ICANN may have to adjust its bylaws if RFC 6220 is to be followed. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Miles Fidelman
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eric Burger
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Leslie Daigle (TCE)
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- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review S Moonesamy
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Justine Lera
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Richard Hill
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review David Conrad
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] A draft for your review John Curran
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