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Re: Old directions in social media.

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 06 January 2021 00:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 11:05:33 +1100
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> On 6 Jan 2021, at 10:57 am, John C Klensin <john@jck.com> wrote:
...
> I suggest that we cross some very unfortunate boundary when what
> appears on a mailing list is equivalent to "anyone who does not
> agree with the reasoning and conclusions reached in XYZ needed
> to speak up".  In that regard, it makes no difference whether
> "XYZ" is github, "our last interim meeting in a timezone that
> was inconvenient for some readers", or something else -- the
> effect is exclusionary and makes claims of consensus far more
> dubious.

I think the same could be said about decisions that are made on obscure mailing lists -- many developers refuse to subscribe to them now because of their awful usability problems.


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