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Re: Old directions in social media.

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 07 January 2021 17:44 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
Thread-Topic: Old directions in social media.
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>    I would like to find a middle ground.

Okay, here is a proposal for finding a middle ground.

Look at some of the standard/common "weekly summary" mail messages and provide explain what you'd like to see changed.  I don't think "include all the comments" is finding middle ground, but Chacun son gout.  Some examples of the summary include:
	https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/-mF0gOetvh8KFElPYAHZ-ih4zYY/
	https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/e0qBS7XPvEvLr0bx4dlocAhP8sg/

I suggest you also look at the email archives for surrounding context.

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