IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: Old directions in social media.

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Thu, 07 January 2021 17:27 UTC

Return-Path: <krose@krose.org>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CC13A0114 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:27 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=krose.org
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jLZrAgj5B9nG for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com (mail-yb1-xb35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F5C03A0100 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id y4so6826711ybn.3 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:27:26 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=krose.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=S219CX9k2oL0YAuSy4Fsl2M8kvlw51bHqhBteQHKQq0=; b=V6iY5m/1H8aNeTe/9aqcmQt/Cp7IycDBNNeib+eQpyAVSgFAZbSYvAM0qcmeSD0JV/ Heg8ZNjUh1N4mpl+IB8e408SfN5L2m5RtJZOax6ejFh6qfXtuuT4V8S8cRQEpBllkWiy fvnVAyFkyKfePrvvL2QUkk8HrmDThRSP3hqc8=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=S219CX9k2oL0YAuSy4Fsl2M8kvlw51bHqhBteQHKQq0=; b=I3V7VWNhECKe/6YmIT+nd3YSfiGofW060B+uPQ9Z0qaqlk4sC7zGcI71hxXTVkaYdF qWR1DzsVt3zI1vK2NsBQvL1Vbaibl/y6U0RiCUJz0mPE4MK/wrUBVKZoBO8gz0vCUmGt E2kC9SQtyNbHEUjAqDIlIGScfeqdkGDq9RR68xsVRFygZZj97CI5zR60VkS0YQWDCoJS oHTeVsCzzO5GnPB/egh3u/MeLi7TYRpePVGm3zEk94DiGyG4nZgvUMwtntgs65h8V/pI q5xRZAGAi4/ZPCKWp58w81j2DfD1R/TLJRPysLM/wBUAIkIg8OKCEvE8zb/v7gi6p0Jm YuEw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531wEH/ZHPt7WDDuH1HT1sWUrUwPD16pbmUHLGOetsPWCA6wgMPY lI9IYLLN0RW5b/rwbUDQhX90laODIluXKI2UqNVIsqtjTcI=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyFXNjUU53zuhTBEa3Ln709SDED2Owexaj406ewMGUtL6HrckNilqdoawYnFsVQ4+YnyoZ1a1EeCvBsInzclDU=
X-Received: by 2002:a25:7c43:: with SMTP id x64mr15559979ybc.267.1610040445231; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:27:25 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CAMm+Lwg1-pxKU8vMinFDUbVca52VgFzTOOSJMnJjaUJvF6PLew@mail.gmail.com> <CAJU8_nUU0Km_YtgpWbLF-JVQVUXFYvxBNBYbzaLOXBqQyvvUaA@mail.gmail.com> <062d01d6e387$39c46270$ad4d2750$@acm.org> <CAJU8_nWD3MwLs5aVNMi_3LqZysrfjv0N7N3ujV-zhqxiFh3tsA@mail.gmail.com> <788651ca-0c84-7a54-9c48-b962faed635f@network-heretics.com> <CAJU8_nXSE-E2AVrJnqe5ZifR+qGhXscNCFXQRDj_GU1r=hNOyw@mail.gmail.com> <70416f47-7c31-8571-02ce-f95ff386d54f@network-heretics.com> <X/TtgTtl02AMyns8@mit.edu> <AM0PR08MB371623409DE8AB03CC667234FAD00@AM0PR08MB3716.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <866b1357-ec50-7765-4277-fd4fba8d793e@network-heretics.com> <AM0PR08MB37166B8E57C293917737D9D6FAD00@AM0PR08MB3716.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <d8454121-f6fb-3cbb-3149-656e20efce96@joelhalpern.com> <AM0PR08MB3716C960817BCCFEE4F9F911FAAF0@AM0PR08MB3716.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <edf8225b-d005-4f99-b96f-41bc49633da3@joelhalpern.com> <AM0PR08MB37169778B08F3F83413194B0FAAF0@AM0PR08MB3716.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <1dc686a0-6810-a006-5e54-72268b0b55f2@mtcc.com>
In-Reply-To: <1dc686a0-6810-a006-5e54-72268b0b55f2@mtcc.com>
From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:27:14 -0500
Message-ID: <CAJU8_nWHwN3tTVyMOf1ZW_ZrKyLnBR_mNbwpzDuoPuZZ3JHNxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d0045f05b852c00c"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/lt84beWr1QnJlr79b8Q-CV-cUN0>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 17:27:28 -0000

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 12:03 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:

> The problem with a pull request
> per se is that if it's not a nit it needs to be determined if it has
> consensus
>

This is unrealistic, and is not in fact how things actually work. In
general, very minor changes employ a form of acclimation: unless someone
objects, they are assumed to have rough consensus if the editors apply
them. If every single change regardless of size needed a consensus call, no
document would ever get finished. In reality, only major proposed changes
get this kind of formal treatment.
Kyle

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email