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Re: Old directions in social media.

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Tue, 05 January 2021 16:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
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On 1/4/21 12:40 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

>
> I have seen groups trying to use git and I really wish they would 
> stop. Using git to run a WG provides a small amount of tool support 
> for issues tracking which is useful. But the tool is designed to do a 
> very different job and has its own bizarre vocabulary. Telling people 
> to enter comments as 'Pull Requests' causes most people's mental gears 
> to grind. The result is WGs whose activities are unhappily split 
> between a Web site and a mailing list with no cohesion between the two.

+1

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