Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Tue, 24 April 2012 23:59 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:59:00 -0500
To: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, Robin Uyeshiro <uyeshiro@IfA.Hawaii.Edu>, "mrex@sap.com" <mrex@sap.com>, 'Sam Hartman' <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets
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At 06:31 PM 4/24/2012, Stephan Wenger wrote:
>Remember, this whole discussion is about a) taking pictures, and b)
>publishing them.

incorrect, this discussion started with Russ proposing copying each 
WG meeting's attendees list - from the blue sheet - into the meeting minutes.

It has gone on from there.

James

>Avoid either, and we should be completely save.  Do
>both, and it still takes at least one person to take offense to the point
>where he calls police or runs to a lawyer, proof, a judge finding that the
>privacy rights of the person have been violated, and so on.
>People take pictures in meetings all the time, in Germany and elsewhere.
>Folks exceed the speed limit (yes, even in Germany large stretches of the
>freeway system and all other roads have a speed limit :-).  In either
>case, many say that the risk is in an acceptable relationship with the
>benefits.
>Stephan
>
>
>On 4.24.2012 16:19 , "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >--On Tuesday, 24 April, 2012 11:52 -1000 Robin Uyeshiro
> ><uyeshiro@IfA.Hawaii.Edu> wrote:
> >
> >> <snip>
> >> The issue with John's purpose is that he is taking a picture
> >> of the audience(!), and if you take such a picture from the
> >> front in a small meeting room, there might a small number of
> >> folks end up _prominently_ in the foreground of that picture,
> >> at which point their consent will be required.
> >
> >Again, IANAL and I don't think you are either, so I don't want
> >to argue "prominently" versus "non-prominently".  I can assure
> >that, when pictures were used, the clear intent was the everyone
> >with his or her hand up was individually identifiable and almost
> >everyone else was too.
> >
> >   john
> >
> >