Re: UK blacklist (Re: Concerns about Singapore and other places)

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Tue, 12 April 2016 21:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: UK blacklist (Re: Concerns about Singapore and other places)
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
wrote:

> Den 12. april 2016 18:52, skrev Ted Lemon:
> > The UK filter is an "opt out" filter, and I assume that we (the IETF)
> > opted out.   Even the "opt out" blocking is voluntary at present--an ISP
> > is not required by law to have a filter, but in practice the big ones do.
>
>
> The particular case that made the blacklist famous in at least some
> fora, and exposed quite a bit on how it worked:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Watch_Foundation_and_Wikipedia
>
> "the action also had some indirect effects on Wikipedia, namely
> temporarily preventing all editors using said ISPs in the UK from
>
>
​this ​

​is PROBABLY also for 'consumer isp connections' mostly and not 'business
isp' links, which the IETF uses at meetings. I suspect, anyway.. else you
may filter on the dsl/ftth/dial network AND re-filter on the backbone-isp
network and again if there's a third tier...

so the IETF simply sidestepped by pretending to be an 'enterprise' network.​