Re: Remote only meetings? [Re: Concerns about Singapore]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 13 April 2016 21:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Remote only meetings? [Re: Concerns about Singapore]
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 09:10:11 +1200
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> Difficulty?  Why do you think that is getting worse?  There was an increase in hassle shortly after 9/11, but I haven’t experienced any greater difficulties now as opposed to 10 years ago. Why do you think it’s set to become more difficult?

You live in a country that's had very strict airport security since the 1970s
(and since I lived in Geneva then, I also remember when Geneva airport was
almost a military encampment, caused by exactly the same events). London got
tough in the 1970s too, for a different reason. It slowly spread across Europe
and the world, with the US remaining amazingly lax until 2001. There was certainly
a step function after 9/11 but it's really been a constant trend since ~1970.
I think you'll find that Paris and Brussels have recently got a lot tougher.
Now it's becoming an issue for long-distance trains in Europe. Expect more.

Regards
   Brian

On 13/04/2016 23:31, Yoav Nir wrote:
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2016, at 5:08 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cherry-picking a few points:
>> On 13/04/2016 00:46, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> ...
>>> And the difficulties/expense of travel are only going to get worse
>>> for the forseeable future: they're not going to get better.
>>
>> That is indisputable.
> 
> OK, I’ll bite. 
> 
> Expense goes up and down with the price of oil, competition, regulation and a zillion other factors. 
> 
> Difficulty?  Why do you think that is getting worse?  There was an increase in hassle shortly after 9/11, but I haven’t experienced any greater difficulties now as opposed to 10 years ago. Why do you think it’s set to become more difficult?
> 
> Yoav
> 
> .
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