Re: Remote only meetings? [Re: Concerns about Singapore]
Theodore V Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org> Tue, 12 April 2016 17:58 UTC
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From: Theodore V Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org>
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Subject: Re: Remote only meetings? [Re: Concerns about Singapore]
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 4/12/16 10:42, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 4/12/16 1:33 PM, Theodore V Faber wrote: >> (Just to forestall the question: Anonymous seems to run entirely >> on large scale telepresence (for some definition thereof). It's >> got a whole set of procedures and traditions that enable that. >> It's a fascinating situation, but I see little inspiration or >> intuition for changing IETF procedures from it.) >> > > I would think that a major open source project might be more of an > example - perhaps Debian? > I don't want to get too far down this particular rathole, but in my experience a lot of those organizations do have a significant component of their interactions at conventions/conferences. (Not in the sense that total time is spent there, but that key interactions occur there.) Most organizations (probably even Anonymous) sit somewhere on a spectrum between face-to-face and online interactions. I'd rather not build a taxonomy, though. - -- Ted Faber <theodore.v.faber@aero.org> Engineering Specialist Computer Systems Research Department 310-336-7373 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXDTc2AAoJEFNjQnOBW8uO5IoP/36zrF3r0p345NqjWfm5rEcO sA0WSgS8QO5Phohu+UV7oXI/LC7NkNHpqO0yHmBKsTGez/q7+iVYeC3BtsSY5zwW KXDWZ5eJQZD8QEYU78f719+L74U1YG5XEsHMb39tGyuMTxayaYb19P67L52pZDgT aIbCaXkdD2m8CBe5Oj01Vcpec9lkF2qQgbRaVxuf6/MVIULyHSylnjz9riS1IuWC CMRXTfxmC7MfxbQQC9D4R0hAAmWjwyYSQMDeTvCAKXxaOMpHi+PNdbKDW9BizZFz lSliFbfG5q4dEFfgypzOAMIBCKH0Jo6hMaHt7mp70QB5pyP/UMrCT0g79LvqAfuU UZdmW64i+0+Rch+vw1IYbbHyxma8EiAuXJ44XcLQEAQ1086IsTU2y77R5XtMQUEl vsbsPluHLfZzfnD/CU17VEXXlIS9uxS4J11dJ6Skdphel0TJUZgEZwW6eejWVL+4 ofsUHMifVWek058opSNmp4PGUXNLrG6CeqnkXPMXv5vTnkdu+xqNgvjWw2YwGFMN VZjR9H6S81LbPk/JgFausCYNa+8I0TGBuWXI7Aa01BRoZuPhhiXUdEc5kZ5bnfro 40bxtTmcBHo8iE4ciWNIix6x2SMtP4oQiGaWIAoqajJDROTtYg/fE/itrTd/ipP6 vKX/FmNm0yNHHUVHQGVf =q+9F -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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