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Re: Concerns about Singapore and other places

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 12 April 2016 20:17 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:17:02 -0400
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Subject: Re: Concerns about Singapore and other places
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> The UK filter is an "opt out" filter, and I assume that we (the IETF) opted
> out. ...

This isn't the parental filter, this is the child porn filter, which I am 
fairly sure is mandatory, at last on consumer ISPs.

A few years ago they listed a Wikipedia page which had an image of an old 
rock record cover with a small nude girl behind a cracked pain of glass. 
They eventually backed down when people pointed out why that particular 
entry was silly, e.g., the record had been available in used record stores 
for decades.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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