Re: Concerns about Singapore

Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> Thu, 07 April 2016 19:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: Concerns about Singapore
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On 2016-04-07 20:30, Dhruv Dhody wrote:
> +1 
> 
> I am happy to see that LGBT inclusiveness taken seriously by the IETF.
> But looking at the law on the books in black and white, would be doing a
> disservice to a large region of the world (with a large number of
> Internet users). 

I don't parse that actually.

How is reading the law of Singapore "doing disservice to a large region
of the world?"

I don't think "yes but many who live in Singapore are nice people"
nor "yes but those laws are hardly ever applied" are useful arguments
in this discussion but maybe thats just me...

I am pretty sure that Ted (to pick a random example) would be able to
travel to Singapore for an IETF and be /personally/ quite safe because
as you say the laws of the land would be selectively applied.

That is always the problem of selectively applied laws: they are used
when it is convenient... and are often used to intimidate. That is why
censorship is often self-administered in countries where there are
censorship laws "on the books".

	Cheers Leif