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Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Thu, 26 February 2015 22:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work
From: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
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On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> But I have seen nothing in our procedures, or even in emails from ADs to the wg-chairs list, or to the IETF list, indicating that our leadership expects chairs to live up to this standard.
> Yes, careful analysis suggests that this is really implicit in our current rules.  But it is not happening.

I think this is true, and we should do something about it.

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